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#1207 of 1700 Ford Expedition by chargin Sep 15, 2003 (4:38 am)
I bought my 03 Eddie Bauer Expedition in May, and now have almost 5000 miles. The vehicle has not had a single problem except for the upper right windshield molding just needing a little more adhesive - a 10 minute job and they did not write it up.   So far vehicle is quiet, powerful (but haven't towed yet), and comfortable. My only complaint concerns excessive break dust on the front wheels, gas mileage could be better, and the air conditioning fan sometimes ceases for very short periods on long trips.   I read an earlier post about $10.00 dust shields that I will try.   I would like to see better mileage. Does anyone know if a "Tornado" (a round metal part placed in the air intake to create a vortex or air) found on a website with a similar name, costing roughly $75.00, will provide a 10-20% better gas mileage? If anyone has any success with that invention (or similar) please let this discussion know. (Oh by the way, I did read some negative comments on other posts in the Town Hall that the "tornado" is probably snake oil.)   One last note I found out when I traveled 500 miles on one hot afternoon. On a couple of occasions the air conditioning fan turned off for about 20 minutes twice on this 500 mile trip, but came back on. Now cold air was still lightly breezing thru the front vents, just not coming out forcefully, it still was annoying. I didn't sweat however, I just didn't expect this to happen even on a long trip. I called Ford in Detroit, they told me it is not unusual for this to occur. Like I said, it only happened twice on my 500 mile trip for about 20 minutes, and the same on the return trip in 90-100 degree weather. I was not too worried. Has anyone experienced this as well?
#1208 of 1700 Can't figure out rear seat audio with DVD by siggie1 Sep 15, 2003 (9:47 am)
We got a new '03 Expedition a few weeks ago with the DVD player. I would like to be able to have the DVD playing through the headphones and the rest of the stereo playing a CD or listening to the radio. I've read the manual a few times, and experimented, but just can't seem to make it happen. The headphone button on the rear console allows the audio to be heard through the wireless headphones, and the radio on the dash says "dual mode," but when I try and change the dash radio to FM radio or CD the DVD shuts off. Has anyone figured out how to get both the DVD playing through the wireless headphones and the radio (or CD) playing through the speakers at the same time?
#1209 of 1700 Chargin Chagrin? by davant Sep 16, 2003 (6:50 pm)
C,   We've had our '03 EB about 10 months, still in love. Other than mirror probs, it's been smooth sailing. There's another site that talks about the AC and brake dust (I assume you didn't mean break dust which are those crumbs next to the coffee pot) but I can't mention it here (initials are BON). E-mail me, I'll send it.   The AC problem is quite common. It is so hard to pin down and I haven't gotten in resolved in two attempts, no parts changed yet. It happens on our rig at about the 1-2 hour point, lasts a few mins (feels like hot flashes might if I had them), and then back to normal.   There will be new brake pads in a Technical Service Bulletin out this fall that are of a less dust shedding material. It's specifically for (as Ford puts it), "those that find excessive brake material deposits objectionable." I for one enjoy the black front rims versus shiny aluminum when I skip a week of washing, can't speak for the masses, LOL. I have the $80 set of Kleenwheels and they help lots. I took them off as I fear they'll contribute to heat build up and if rotors warp prematurely, the dealer could hold them responsible--warranty voided? Best of luck, happy Fording!
#1210 of 1700 A/C issue by nvbanker Sep 16, 2003 (7:36 pm)
I had this odd A/C issue on my Navigator when it was new. Turned out to be an expansion valve hanging up. New expansion valve, everything ice cold since.   I have been putting up with the brake dust myself. My chrome 18 inch wheels really look great with graphite tint, I thought it was an option I had been graced with.
#1211 of 1700 want to buy used Expedition by td19 Sep 18, 2003 (6:15 am)
I have been looking for a used 99 or 2000 Expy OR Tahoe. Now I have to pick between this two options. (a) 2000 Expedition XLT with 90k miles. Asking $12500 (I know the single owner and all miles are highway miles) (b) 1999 Tahoe LT with 73K miles. Asking $10900   Should I prefer newer vehilcal or with less miles?
#1212 of 1700 td19 by jrc346 Sep 18, 2003 (8:11 am)
Honestly I have experience with both. I own a 1999 Expedition Eddie Bauer 4WD with 88K. A good buddy of mine has a 1999 Yukon 4WD with about 125K on it now. I think it's fine now but around the 70K mark had a TON of problems. I know that's not the case with all Tahoes and Yukons, but I think for the two vehicles you are looking at, the Expedition is probably the better choice. For one, my buddy had to do his brakes probably once every 12-15K. I now know that just recently that GM came out with a revised proportioning valve and new rear shoes to help rectify the problem. I think for him it has helped the rotor warping problem, but not the fast wearing out of the pads. My brakes are being done for the second time as I speek (only the rear pads). He has had many electrical problems, many stemming from the power locks and the HVAC. His leather seats have worn through to the padding on the drivers side and the color has worn off in patches on the passenger side (so get the cloth seats if you get the Tahoe). On My Expy the leather drivers seat is wearing in the same area (near the edge closest the the door) but only the size of an area smaller than your pinky finger, and it is no where near being worn through to the padding.   There are things that I do like about his Yukon though. I really like the 350 5.7L. What a great engine, not to mention it sounds great. My 5.4 sounds good, but only sings when it's reving high (which is not really often (gas$$$)). I also like that he has a 2WD option, where as on my Expy you only get A4WD, 4HI, 4LO. The last thing that surprizes me, is that he can be a lot harder on his gas pedal, and still get as good, if not better gas mileage than I do. All things considered I guess they both have tradeoffs. I like my Expy more than my friend's Yukon mostly because my truck has been bulletproof and his has been a money drain.   Two things to expect with the Tahoe and Yukon is a clunk when engaging Drive from Reverse and Vice Versa. This is NORMAL and is caused by play in the driveline. The other thing is lots of brake jobs. It is just a characteritic of that model. The 2000 and newer Tahoes have solved the brake problem with 4-wheel disc brakes (much better). I am just one guy, that has one Expy and a buddy that has one Yukon. Not all Expy's are great, and not all Yukons/Tahoes are bad. This is just my experience, so do what you will with this. Goodluck with your research and your decision:-)
#1213 of 1700 Is AdvanceTrac worthwhile in New England? by geaux Sep 18, 2003 (12:35 pm)
I'm looking to buy a 2003 Expedition and my dealer has been able to locate one with everything I want except AdvanceTrac. I'm trying to decide if I should settle for this or keep looking in hopes that I find one with AdvanceTrac. I'm interested in others' opinions about the AdvanceTrac option and how important it is (I live in New England). Thanks.
#1214 of 1700 AdvanceTrac by zman3 Sep 18, 2003 (12:49 pm)
That is a hard question for someone else to answer. It depends on how much you trust your driving skills. Our 03 has it. It is the first vehicle that we have owned that has a stability control system and we are extremely impressed with the system. Fortunately for us the only time we needed it this past winter was messing around in snow covered parking lots. It never saved us on the road in a panic situation but based on testing it, it seems like it would be a huge help in certain situations.
#1215 of 1700 geaux by explorerx4 Sep 18, 2003 (3:29 pm)
zman3 has a good point. it sounds like you have to be willing to make some kind of emergency maneuvers to activate the system. i'm thinking you have to have faith that it will handle like a mustnag gt when you need it. how do you expect it to help you? maybe ford should start an advancetrac driving school, so you'll know what you paid for. imo an expedition will give up a lot of itself before it gets to you, if you don't get it on it's side.
#1216 of 1700 One more thing.. by zman3 Sep 18, 2003 (5:09 pm)
We actually have activated it in "normal" driving. My wife likes it because it will keep the tail end from swinging around when taking a snowy/icy 90 degree turn. She can pretty much just mash the accelerator and go, no need to worry about any fishtailing. That should be something that is pretty easy to control, but to her the AdvanceTrac is important now that she has it.

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