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#1277 of 1700 2005 Expedition? by califjohn May 04, 2004 (7:29 am)
Has anyone seen any info on the 2005 Expy? I have read very little about what may change. The small diesel seems dead for sure at least until 2007 or later, but the F-150's 3v 5.4 and 5 speed auto are possible. Either or both should help fuel economy. For tourguide: Do the Raybestos ceramic pads improve stopping distances as well as reduce black dust? Does this result in increased wearing of the rotors with these harder pads? For edistobeach: You may want to search in some of the previous posts going back some time as I believe these topics were discussed. Perhaps our host will help point you in the right direction too.
#1278 of 1700 Answers for edistobeach by dwgutwir May 04, 2004 (8:33 am)
Advance Trac is Ford's stability control system for the Expedition.   The four corner load leveling suspension is the air suspension. You'd want this if you planned to tow a fair amount, but that's really all. It might provide a better ride in some situations and also lowers the vehicle slightly when parking for easier egress. I've heard of reliability issues with this system, and its not cheap to repair post warranty.   If I wasn't planning on towing an awful lot I'd pass on this and take the Advance Trac for the improved safety in ever day driving circumstances.   Note, on the Expedition these two options are NOT available together. It is one or the other.
#1279 of 1700 Brakes by tourguide May 04, 2004 (2:58 pm)
I don't know if the Quietstops reduce stopping distances or not. Most people who have them claim that they are at least as good, some say better at stopping power. In my view, if they are as good at stopping and eliminate (or severely cut back) the brake dust they are a win.   Regarding the rotor wear. I think this is a myth. This was the thing everyone was saying about semi-metalic pads when they first came out. Oh, they'll tear up your rotors. I think this is a rumor started by techs who want a few more hours on the clock.   You should (IF you don't neglect them) get about 100,000 miles on a set of rotors provided your driving style isn't too agressive. The worst thing you can do to the longevity of your rotors is allow the pads to go metal on metal. Then you're screwed and it is going to cost you big $.
#1280 of 1700 tourguide thanks for by califjohn May 05, 2004 (7:33 am)
the Raybestos info. I agree totally with your advice to not let the pads wear to metal.
#1281 of 1700 Problems - wilson by nvbanker May 09, 2004 (3:10 pm)
1) Squeaking sucks, and it shouldn't. I'm surprised the dealer won't help with this. "They should.   2) Rumble on start up - if it's right as the engine catches, so does mine.   3) Transmission - this isn't right and is the only problem of yours I'd be really concerned about. It needs service. Probably a reflash.   Good luck!
#1282 of 1700 Oil Change Frequency by tloftus May 12, 2004 (12:15 pm)
Hi guys- I have asked this before, and am still wrestling with it. Have a 2004 Expedition and love it (except for the recent problem with the in-dash CD). My dealer says to change the oil every 3,500 miles. My local mechanic says every 4,000. The freaking owners manual from the manufacturer, FORD, says that for my kind of driving (no towing, no off-roading, normal conditions)every 5,000...what do I do?
#1283 of 1700 by alwaysfords2 May 12, 2004 (12:30 pm)
I've always been a 3,000 miler (dino oil) even though my driving doesn't call for it. On my 2003 I've been able to hold out to 4,000, allowing a little extra mileage for the synthetic blend
#1284 of 1700 Oil changes by gheimur May 12, 2004 (1:05 pm)
I've recently had a 1995 Plymouth Voyager 160k that I repaced with a 2004 Expy 2 weeks ago, 2001 Ford Escape 51k, 03 Saturn 9500 miles and 96 Ford Taurus 131k. Bought all the cars new and have changed the oil myself. Before they turn 100k I changed the oil and filter every 4k. After 100k every 5k. Plymouth Voyager,Taurus Engine, and Escape engines all run like new. No Smoke, burning etc.. Consumers Reports did a test a few years ago and noticed no differnece in engine wear between 3k or 5k oil changes , so I decided to do 4k
#1285 of 1700 by nvbanker May 12, 2004 (2:23 pm)
And I follow the manufacturer recommendations, of 5,000 miles. Never lost an engine yet.
#1286 of 1700 by steve_ HOST May 12, 2004 (2:29 pm)
I follow the manufacturer's recommendation too, but my manual says 7,500 miles.   Engine Oil - A slippery subject Part 2   Steve, Host

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