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#1294 of 1700 Yes, Steve.... by nvbanker May 20, 2004 (10:44 am)
I agree completely. I'm only talking about cars that specifically require higher octane and are tuned for it.   Isn't it funny though, that so many people will buy a premium car that does need the higher grade, and chisel to save a couple of dimes at the pump - and then there are those who drive a Focus, and "give it a treat" with premium fuel, like that will help? Of course, if you drive a Focus, I guess it won't break you to buy the high-test once in a while.   Car and Driver tested this octane war theory a few months ago, or maybe years ago now, and found there are indeed some cars that the performance did improve or decline based on the octane rating that it ingested - and some that it made virtually no difference at all either way. I guess you can run your own tests - and go from there.
#1295 of 1700 2005 Expy looking interesting.... by gteach26 May 26, 2004 (4:47 pm)
Here's a link I stumbled upon detailing the changes for '05:   http://www.fordaxz.com/pdf/2005.EXPEDITION.OG.pdf   I REALLY like the new LIMITED model that is being introduced with its 301HP 5.4L engine, DVD navigation option, wood steering wheel and console, etc. etc.... Replies to this message: terry2 (Aug 09, 2004 10:44 pm)
#1296 of 1700 2005 Limited does sound good by casadecastro May 26, 2004 (9:37 pm)
Anybody know when the 2005 Expy will be available? SIgn me up for a Limited. I test drove a 2004 5.4 last night and it struggled up a hill near the dealership. Would hate to try it in the mountains... Replies to this message: cornellpinoy (May 27, 2004 2:52 am)
#1297 of 1700 Re: 2005 Limited does sound good [casadecastro #1296] by cornellpinoy May 27, 2004 (2:52 am)
Replying to: casadecastro (May 26, 2004 9:37 pm) The 2005 does sound very enticing, doesn't it? For what its worth, I drive a Denali with the 6.0 v8. Last month, I drove an Expedition EB with the 5.4 for a week, always loaded with 8 (sometimes 9) adults and cargo. To my surprise, it never felt underpowered. I wasn't a fan of the previous Expy, but the current generation certainly is an improvement and I can't wait to try it with the new motor.
#1298 of 1700 2005 Expy by mbjb May 27, 2004 (10:45 am)
All 2005 expys will have the 301 hp engine. Ford is also dropping the 4.6. Ford is trying to catch up with everyone else with 300+ hp. The Limited version is a keeper and I wish I was in the market to move up to the 2005.
#1299 of 1700 2004/2005 Expy by gheimur May 27, 2004 (12:43 pm)
I have an 04 EXPY EB with every option except the DVD,NAV and middle row captains chairs.It is a great SUV, better than any others and I looked at them all. Had it for a month at this point. While the 05 may have the 301HP, the 260 HP in the 04 is more than sufficient for my purpose.The 05 gas mileage may not be as good as the 04. We'll see... The difference between the Limited and EB is mostly Color combos, standard equipment. The EB can be equipped with all the options and sparkle with the Fire Red paint.
#1300 of 1700 by mersee May 28, 2004 (8:20 am)
I have owned my 04 Expedition for a couple of months now and have "knock on wood" had no problems! My only complaint would be that gas is over $2.00 a gallon, but I knew what kind of gas mileage I would be getting when I went from a minivan to the Expedition The Limited sounds nice, but you can't beat the Fire Red paint, which doesn't look available on the Limited.
#1301 of 1700 Fire Red by nvbanker May 28, 2004 (4:59 pm)
I have one of those in the Eddie Bauer trim that lives and parks across the street from me. They are sharp...
#1302 of 1700 3v 5.4 NOT a cureall by tourguide May 29, 2004 (6:36 am)
Greetings everyone,   I was faced with the choice of a 2004 or 2005 Expedition and in the process the 260 hp, or the 300 hp engine. I ended up going with the 04 for a couple of reasons.   1. A late build 04 is likely to have fewer bugs than an early build 05 with tweaks and changes.   2. The Limited Editions for 05 are likely an excuse for a price bump to bolster Fords bottom line. Can't blame them for this, I just don't want to exceed 40K.   3. The 3v 5.4 IS NOT what you would expect. The older motors have a better acceleration off the line without question. Ask the people who own them - the new F-150 owners who've driven and owned the older 260hp version. Only when the new motor gets into the upper RPMs does the extra 40hp become apparent. This may have something to do with the new throttle-by-wire system, I don't know. I DO know that you're buying a 3 ton SUV - NOT a sports car here people. The older motor will get the job done without question - and in some cases do a better job than the new version.   -TG
#1303 of 1700 The old motor........ by nvbanker May 29, 2004 (3:54 pm)
Let me weigh in here on this old motor as well.   The 260hp 5.4 Triton was the engine in my 99 Navigator also. About a minute and a half after I bought mine, they brought out the 5.4L Intech engine, with 4V DOHC, but I missed it.   I never lacked for power, even towing, even towing up long grades and hills. Never. And that engine performed flawlessly for the 65,000 miles that I owned the car. I loved that engine.   Frankly, I don't notice the increased power much. This is an equally good engine, and maybe under load, it would be stronger. But the 260hp engine was always plenty for me too.

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