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#1302 of 1700 3v 5.4 NOT a cureall by tourguide May 29, 2004 (6:36 am)
Greetings everyone,   I was faced with the choice of a 2004 or 2005 Expedition and in the process the 260 hp, or the 300 hp engine. I ended up going with the 04 for a couple of reasons.   1. A late build 04 is likely to have fewer bugs than an early build 05 with tweaks and changes.   2. The Limited Editions for 05 are likely an excuse for a price bump to bolster Fords bottom line. Can't blame them for this, I just don't want to exceed 40K.   3. The 3v 5.4 IS NOT what you would expect. The older motors have a better acceleration off the line without question. Ask the people who own them - the new F-150 owners who've driven and owned the older 260hp version. Only when the new motor gets into the upper RPMs does the extra 40hp become apparent. This may have something to do with the new throttle-by-wire system, I don't know. I DO know that you're buying a 3 ton SUV - NOT a sports car here people. The older motor will get the job done without question - and in some cases do a better job than the new version.   -TG
#1303 of 1700 The old motor........ by nvbanker May 29, 2004 (3:54 pm)
Let me weigh in here on this old motor as well.   The 260hp 5.4 Triton was the engine in my 99 Navigator also. About a minute and a half after I bought mine, they brought out the 5.4L Intech engine, with 4V DOHC, but I missed it.   I never lacked for power, even towing, even towing up long grades and hills. Never. And that engine performed flawlessly for the 65,000 miles that I owned the car. I loved that engine.   Frankly, I don't notice the increased power much. This is an equally good engine, and maybe under load, it would be stronger. But the 260hp engine was always plenty for me too.
#1304 of 1700 2005 Expedition on order by nckracer Jun 01, 2004 (5:20 pm)
My lease is up on my '03 Expy, so I ordered an '05 Eddie Bauer 4X4 with all options except for second row captains chairs. The only reason I didn't go with the limited is the monotone paint scheme. I still like the two tone, just looks a little nicer. I ordered it on the 24th of May. I have a vehicle order confirmation but no build date yet. No pricing has been released yet, but dealer guaranteed me invoice price plus any available rebates. I've been told to expect delivery after the first of August.
#1305 of 1700 05 Delivery by tourguide Jun 02, 2004 (2:26 pm)
It'll be a miracle if you take delivery in August. You should plan on delivery some time in the first half of September. Job 1 for 05 Expeditions is August 2.   The order for my 04 took about 8 weeks and they tell you to plan on 6 to 8. You can't count on 6 to 8 starting until job 1 for the 05 production run I would guess. Maybe this is a question for your dealer.   Also, I'd want the invoice - incentives in writing. Unless you have it in black and white, it doesn't matter what they said.
#1306 of 1700 Dem Brakes What is Breaks by davant Jun 07, 2004 (6:22 pm)
Replying to: nvbanker (May 19, 2004 6:03 pm) Our '03 Eddie-B XP only has squealing brakes out of the 1-2-3 problems recently discussed. We now have 32K on it and at least 10K of that was in traffic so I would expect to have to replace pads now. I find it odd that they just make a slight noise that is probably the wear indicators, not like any I've heard before.   What would one expect to pay for pad replacement with ceramic Raysbestos, or as they probably call it here, Bubba-sbestos or my-other-brother-ray's-doing-asbestos-he-can?   Welcome back to gas, oil, heck even anti-freeze as I'm not fluid prejudice.
#1307 of 1700 Brake prices by tourguide Jun 07, 2004 (7:12 pm)
Cost on the replacements with the new Ford ceramic pads will run you between $300 and $400. These are prices I've seen thrown around the net.   Now, a set of decent ceramic pads from Tirerack.com will run you about $90 plus say $100-$110 for installation you can do it for $100-$200 cheaper by going with aftermarket pads and having the installation done at a mom-and-pop shop near you.   Whether or not you want to do this is a decision you have to make. Some folks have to have their work done at the dealership in order to be happy.   -TG
#1308 of 1700 A/C Recharge by anthonysbmw Jun 08, 2004 (6:01 am)
I am trying to add / check the R-134a in the A/C system in my 2001 Expedition ED with rear a/c. I can't find the low pressure value to check the system pressure / level of freon. I have found the high side right in front of the battery on the passenger side. Any idea where the low side valve is located?   Thanks
#1309 of 1700 2005 model by jeff88 Jun 15, 2004 (11:20 am)
Just bought the 2004 and love it. However, I did notice a couple of items on the '05 that I might miss a little:   raised roof rails -- I like these better than the current rack; am going to use the thule from the old explorer we had with longer bars.   power folding mirrors -- had those added to my '04 from navigator parts. it ran me another grand to have done. Looks like the EB doesn't get them and I'd have gone with the eb over the ltd anyway.   Not sure the engine would have made a lot of difference to me. the '04 is pretty studly as it is. would have liked a 5 sp tranny tho, one more gear between 1st and 3rd would have been nice.
#1310 of 1700 X-Plan?? by laurob Jul 02, 2004 (6:26 pm)
Looking for an Expy to replace lemon Honda Odyssey... Been reading these forums for info & have come across a few mentions of "X-Plan" for better prices. Would someone kindly explain & give info on where to find this plan? Thank You
#1311 of 1700 X-plan by nvbanker Jul 03, 2004 (12:40 pm)
is only available to Ford Motor Co. employees, or relatives of same. It gives you the car at essentially the dealer cost.

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