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Re: Safety Canopy - When Is It Included? [zman3] by bronsonb
Sep 06, 2006 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: zman3 (Sep 06, 2006 1:41 pm)

Karl-
Thanks for the information! I do appreciate it, and I really appreciate the quick response.
 
Ironically, I just saw an article in the local Marietta paper about a Marietta family of four killed in a rollover crash in the Explorer. I don't know if the safety canopy was even an option on the Explorer, but reading that made me want to make sure I had every ounce of protection I could get for my family.
 
I read that these folks were all wearing their seat belts, but they were t-boned by an RV. The Explorer rolled once and landed on it's feet. I have no idea if a safety canopy would have helped, but I think it might have.
 
I'll take a look in the glove compartment for the next Expedition I test drive and see what's there and if there is any deciphering it.
 
Thanks again!
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Re: Safety Canopy - When Is It Included? [bronsonb] by zman3
Sep 07, 2006 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: bronsonb (Sep 06, 2006 7:14 pm)

You're welcome.
 
Here is what I verified.
 
1) The "Safety Canopy with Rollover Sensing" was it's own $580 option.
 
2) The Safety Canopy covers the first and second row.
 
I did not find a sticker in my glove compartment with the options listed. The only sticker I found was on the drivers side B pillar and I was not able to decipher any option codes, if they were even listed. I am going to assume that vehicles without the Safety Canopy would not have the airbag sticker on the headliner like mine does. I would hope Ford would only label vehicles with that option present.
 
If you want more assistance there is a good Expedition e-mail list on yahoo and this web site may be of assistance:
 
www.flatratetech.com
 
Karl
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4x4 versus 4x2 by bronsonb
Sep 13, 2006 (4:17 pm)
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Hello again!
 
I am still looking at used Eddie Bauer edition Ford Expeditions. I've looked at several with just 4x2 and several equipped with 4x4. The price difference seems to be anywhere from $1000 - $1500 for the 4x4. My question is this: Is it worth getting the 4x4? I never plan to take this vehicle off-road and really just want it for hauling all of the kids all over the place and being able to haul stuff like plywood and drywall.
 
Anyway, knowing I really never plan to take it off road, am I missing much by sticking to a 4x2? Or are there other advantages to the 4x4 that I am missing? I noticed that with the 4x4 you also get the option of AWD, which is nice. But you do get lower MPG with the 4x4?
 
I'd be happy to hear from the members here about their preferences and whether or not they regret the decision to go 4x4 or 4x2. I do appreciate all of the information I've been given as well as all of the info I've found searching through the forum.
 
Thanks all!
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Loud whine during acceleration by mdexpid
Sep 19, 2006 (8:06 am)
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I have a 2000 Expedition 4x4 with 124,000 miles. It started making a loud whine during accleration, but stops when not accelerating, almost sounds metallic. I had it to the dealer who, although heard the noise, could not find a cause. It is becoming quite disturbing, especially after reading about transmission problems in expeditions. Anyone had similar problem? Thanks.
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Whine by alwaysfords2
Sep 19, 2006 (6:28 pm)
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Are you sure it is up front? The rear LS diffs whine also when they go bad, and sometimes the sound travels and almost seems to be from the front
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Re: Whine [alwaysfords2] by ahightower
Sep 20, 2006 (7:30 pm)
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Replying to: alwaysfords2 (Sep 19, 2006 6:28 pm)

It's just the supercharger... ha...
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EL vs. XL by ahightower
Sep 29, 2006 (10:55 am)
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So I was playing around with the "build your own" websites for Ford and GMC. It looks like the Expedition EL is going to be about $2,000 less than a comparably equipped Yukon XL. (Suburban seems to be a few hundred less than GMC.) The major differences I notice are that the Ford has a little lower gas mileage, but in its favor are the fold flat third row and the 6-speed. The third row's not too big a deal for me. Only has to be roomy enough for children, and given that I have three and will use it every day, I won't be removing it or folding it very often. Although I would like them to keep their feet off the backs of the middle row, and I have seen photos of actual adults in the third row of the new Expedition and it's pretty impressive.
 
Style is a toss up. The new GM interiors are nice, I actually like the fake wood trim. The Ford has some nice touches too. I especially like the Ford's A/C vents, and the center-mounted, as opposed to column-mounted, shifter. And there is one detail photo of the Ford's gauge cluster that looks exquisite. I sat in a new Tahoe a few months ago just for fun, and found the driver's seat to be narrow and my right leg bumped up against the center console. Haven't been inside a new Expedition yet. If that seat is just a bit wider, or the console is mounted lower, that could be a deal-maker for me. I'm not fat, mind you, just long-legged. I've been inside the Sequoia and Tundra, and they don't have especially wide seats, but the console is very low to the ground, and the dash is not intrusive, so there is a feeling of spaciousness and your right knee doesn't hit anything. Back to the topic at hand, I also really like the two-tone paint on the Eddie Bauer Fords.
 
Only GM has the remote start, which I'd like with the auto climate control. But only ford has the ventilated seats. I wonder how effective those really are, but what a cool idea. And GM has OnStar, of course, which I fortunately have not had to use yet, but really really like the idea.
 
I currently have a 2005 Yukon XL. At the time I bought it, there was no other option as far as I was concerned, Expedition just didn't have enough room behind the third row. (There was the Excursion, but that was much more expensive). Now I can't wait until it's time to trade in our 2005 and try out both of the new ones!
 
Any other key points I've missed? What swayed the rest of you one way or another?
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Re: Cooled Seats by bronsonb
Sep 29, 2006 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: ahightower (Sep 29, 2006 10:55 am)

...But only ford has the ventilated seats. I wonder how effective those really are, but what a cool idea...
 
I test drove several Expeditions with the heated and cooled seats. The cooled seats were pretty nice. It isn't like sitting on an ice cube, but after the car has been running for 5 - 10 minutes (depending on external temp), you do feel a nice "coolness" on your back and bottom. It's welcome relief if you live in a hot climate. Note that it won't immediately cool your bottom on a 90 degree+ day when the car has been sitting in the sun. But give it a few minutes, and it will make you comfy.
 
Also note that the cooled seats have their own air filters that require periodic changing. No idea what those cost, but I believe you can get them through most auto parts stores and, of course, at Ford.
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EL XL by alwaysfords2
Sep 29, 2006 (8:30 pm)
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you can add remote start to any fuel injected automatic. Ford has a system and there are tons of aftermarket vrsions.
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Re: Cooled Seats [bronsonb] by steve_ HOST
Sep 29, 2006 (8:41 pm)
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Replying to: bronsonb (Sep 29, 2006 3:43 pm)

"According to a recent study by the U.S. Department of Energy's National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL), ventilated automotive seats not only can improve passenger comfort but also a vehicle's fuel economy. That's because ventilated seats keep drivers and passengers cooler, so they need less air conditioning to be comfortable."
 
Here's some more info about those cooled seats in the Expy:
 
Keep Your Cool....And Perhaps Save Some Gas
 
And here's Part 2, an aftermarket solution.

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