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#9 - Recycled Lemon? by joelis
Sep 08, 2000 (5:36 pm)
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did you do a History check on it? Sounds like a good candidate.


Unfortunately, sometimes that information gets "lost" depending what state is involved.
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i do not understand why by dardson
Sep 09, 2000 (3:02 am)
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after 2yrs with my 98 EXP & no mechanical problems (just a rear wiper they took 5 tries to finally fix) I'm shopping....trade every 24 months...read the mags and ALL seem to LOVE Tahoe/Suburban. Drove both. Suburban seemed "overburdened", felt slow, and I wondered about all the praise for the Chevy engine (which is the constant criticism of the Ford). My EXP seemed like a race car by comparison. Decided to drive a Tahoe which did feel distinctly quicker than the Suburban,and perhaps a bit stronger than my Ford 5.4. But not enough to justify all the praise for the Chevy engine. Both Chevy's rode a tad better (if softer is better). That said, everything else about the my 98 Ford feels and looks better than the 2001 Chevy. The center console on the Chevy looks like an ice chest, and that cassette deck sorta shoved above the cupholders looks like something in a 78 Oldsmobile. The whole interior of the Chevy looks a decade behind Ford. The stereo in the Chevy which brags about a 9 speaker system with a subwoofer sounds weak. My Ford system with 4 speakers sounds much better. If you compare the Tahoe with the EXP (which is really the comparison) the Tahoe looks smallish through the rear view mirror...maybe a foot+ shorter behind the rear seat. Something as small as the power window switches on the Chevy looks like a throw-back to the square "no ergonomics" 1970 while my EXP door design sweeps gracefully following the natural curves of the human body. I'll get another Ford. I will never understand all the hipe about Chevy or why they get such positive comment while Ford EXP consistently gets a "so-so" review. I wish....my EXP rode a bit softer, and that it got a bit better gas milage (12 in town and 16+ on the road) but otherwise I love the thing.




















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I've got both... by joelis
Sep 09, 2000 (3:53 am)
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New Silverado with 5.3 and new Expy with 5.4, both 4x4's. Even though the Expy is about 500 pounds heavier, it still has much more noticable power than the Silverado. And it should since the 5.4 has more Torque.


Even though the 5.3 has 20 more HP (on paper), its so high in the RPM band that its basically useless.


What I was really impressed with was the difference in drivetrain components (Axle, driveshaft, differrential, tranny, etc) between the two vehicles. When you look underneath, the Silverado (1500) shows its expected 1/2 ton related parts, while the Expedition surprisingly shows 3/4 ton components.


If you don't believe me, check the two side by side sometime. It also explains the heavier weight and the lower gas mileage in the Expy (more along the lines of a 3/4 ton).


I have not looked under a Tahoe or 1500 Sub, but I bet you find the 1/2 ton parts.
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Expedition Reliability by steveinfla
Sep 09, 2000 (4:15 pm)
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I just finished reading all 511 posts in the other area and summarize problems as follows:
1) There is a vibration problem between 60-70 that post #128/ of 511 seems to know how to fix, but how do I tell if used 97 Expeditions I am looking at have fixed these problems


2) There seems to be potential for transmission to fail


3) Rear wipers seem almost a certainty to fail


4) Newer models seem to have intermittent problem with engine suddently turning off at slow speeds or turning at slow speeds


Does these seem excessive or comparable? I have always liked Fords am very interested in the Expedition but should I look at Durango or Suburban instead?
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Expedition reliability by dougpittman
Sep 10, 2000 (5:24 pm)
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I have 2 EXPYs: 97 4x2 4.6L & 2000 EB 4x2. The '97 has 180K Mi and the 2000 has 40K Mi. I have had a grand total of 2 small problems with the 97 (both covered by warr.) and zero problems with the 2000. I think the info you are getting from these posts is the result of a great compression of data. There are hundreds of thousands of Expeditions across the USA having few or no problems. The 20 or 30 situations you read about here though unfortunate still still show the results of a tremendous job on behalf of the folks at Ford in putting "Quality First".
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reliablity by dardson
Sep 11, 2000 (4:32 am)
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I've had the well know rear wiper problem, but nothing else......2 years into this car, bought new, no rattles, no problems other than the rear wiper.
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by bear36
Sep 11, 2000 (7:17 pm)
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I have a 2000 EB Expy, only 1000 miles and I now think I only have 26 gallon gas tank instead of the 30 gallon gas tank my equipment list says I should have. Only reason I care is because of the gas mileage on the 5.4L the larger tank means more time between gas stops; additionally on longer trips It means I don't have to stop as often. Twice now I've waited for the mileage indicator to say I have less than ten miles left, and the gas gauge is firmly on empty. I can't put more than 22 gallons of gas in the thing.


Has anyone else experienced this? I've talked to the dealer and they're hemming a hawwing about all tanks have a reserve. Reserve yes but not an 8 gallon reserve. Anybody know if I may cause damage (create new rattles) having the dealership look around in there to confirm the gas tank size.
Any comments appreciated.
thanks.




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by alwaysfords
Sep 12, 2000 (12:46 am)
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Try resetting the trip computer - it calculates your mileage (if you are watching the readout) and for the first few tankfulls it isn't all that accurate. Try using the odometer to gage how much gas you will need to put in, you should probably be getting around 14 - 15 mpg. You will also notice that you need to nurse in the last few gallons on a big fill up, as it will usually kick off the pump around 26 or 26.
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by vic2000
Sep 12, 2000 (6:05 pm)
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I've got a 2000 Expy EB 4x4 like bear36 has... got about 2,750 miles on it, the first 2,000 or so were short trips & city driving. A couple of weeks ago, I filled the tank and set forth on a 375 mile drive from NYC to Virginia. Knowing that the Owners' Manual does imply that the mileage estimates returned by the overhead display can be unreliable until you hit 3,000 miles (if I recall correctly), what I observed on my drive was the "miles to empty" number increasing as I proceeded. Keeping in mind that I've doing a steady 65+mph, therefore improving my fuel economy, the system's recalculating based on those factors. The low fuel warning light on the dash - which, if I remember correctly lights at the 4 gallon mark (correct me if I'm wrong)- lit when the overhead told me I had 8 miles left. I wasn't worried because I figured it simply didn't have enough data - based on wide enough range of driving/fuel usage history - to accurate calculate that number.


It turns out that, 8 miles to go was about 2 miles short of my destination. Pulled into the local Citgo... pumped in around 26 gallons (the tab was around $42, and gas prices were around $1.62/gal... do the math).


Speaking of gas, I use 89 octane in my 5.4l v8 Expy, despite the Owner's Manual indicating a 86 minimum. What do some other folks use?


And speaking of tires, my EB came with Firestone Wilderness ATs. Now, I'm not all panic-stricken about the situation concerning the 15" (mine are 17") - I'm actually more concerned about something that happened on my return trip from VA. Cruising along at around 50mph in a moderate rainstorm, rounding a gentle, slightly banked curve, I - in the inside lane - starting hydoplaning. My truck started sliding "downwards" ever so slightly off the road and towards the grass median. I never actually went offroad, but for a seconds it looked like I might. I stayed cool - eased up on the gas, kept away from the brake and held the wheel steady, and within a few seconds I was back in control (whether the Auto 4WD kicked in or not I couldn't tell). Anyway... no harm. But, when I got home I stated looking into the Firestones. I specifically ordered this truck with safety in mind - big, Auto4WD, Reverse-sensing system, - because I wanted my family and I to be glued to the road. So, I'm left a little disconcerted. As it turns out, the Firestone's have a Traction rating of "B"; I've looked into some Michelins (LTX M/S and the Pilot LTX) that have "A" ratings and - knowing Michelin - are likely to be much quieter, too.


Anyway... I'm sorry to say that if my EB's off road, I'm likely to be slumped unconscious behind the wheel, a spent airbag in my lap. I live in NYC, so all-season, street/highway performance - supreme, all-weather street/highway traction's what I really need, not all-terrain charactertics which might compromise foul-weather performance. Any tire experts out there like to recommend a tire, or tell me the aforementioned Michelins are a good choice? I'm likely to do something, tire-wise, within the next month. Maybe I'll get lucky and Ford/Firestone will pull the plug on all Wilderness AT's.


Thanks.
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Need help fast!! by sanandton
Sep 12, 2000 (7:59 pm)
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Dealer agreed to exchange my Firetone AT 17" on the Expiditon to Michelin LTX. It appears Michelin has quit taking orders as they are over 1 year behind due to demand. Does anyone have a suggestion on a Quiet, dependable, safe replacement for the Firestones. Dealer will do anything I suggest.

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