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#7603 of 8166 2006 model by aaaedgarpoe Jan 22, 2005 (2:46 am)
I can't find any good reviews of the new model even though its been at auto shows for over a week now. Don't try looking -- I've looked all over.
#7604 of 8166 2006 model by markjenn Jan 22, 2005 (10:42 am)
That's probably because they haven't done an initial production run yet, so there are no models in testers hands yet. The auto-show cars may not even be mechanically complete.   - Mark
#7605 of 8166 My 2002 ML500 by mark156 Jan 23, 2005 (4:06 pm)
I've had my ML500 for 37 months and 39,200 miles. I just put new tires on it and I'm getting close to a set of brake pads but the brake pad light has not come on yet.   I have a silly question... Do our ML's have heated side mirrors? I normally keep mine in the garage but kept it out recently in the dew and noticed that when I turned on the rear window defogger, the mirrors didn't clear. Every Mercedes I've had has had heated mirrors. It doesn't say "heated mirror" on the mirror itself.   I bought the top-of-the-line ML with the third seat, parktronic and navigation.... I just assumed it had heated mirrors too.   Thanks, Mark Replies to this message: chumsae (Jan 24, 2005 9:27 am)
#7606 of 8166 Benz deisel -- I live in California by aaaedgarpoe Jan 23, 2005 (8:08 pm)
Called Benz and they said the state will not let them sell used Diesels, even with over 7500 miles on them.   Yet, VW lists used diesels on their dealer sites.   If ou figure you are going to drive your M-class vehicle 200,000 miles and you figure 17 mpg and $2.30/gallon, thats = $27,000 in gas. But with diesel at $2.00/gallon and 30 mpg thats = $13,000.   Also, there will be fewer repairs on a deisel and less chance of a breakdown. Replies to this message: tidester (Jan 23, 2005 9:23 pm)
#7607 of 8166 Re: Benz deisel -- I live in California [aaaedgarpoe] by tidester HOST Jan 23, 2005 (9:23 pm)
Replying to: aaaedgarpoe (Jan 23, 2005 8:08 pm) The difference between the two scenarios you proposed is only $3,500 - you figured the cost running diesel incorrectly. Also, 200,000 miles will take the average driver something like 14 years to achieve so the difference works out to about $5 per week.   tidester, host
#7608 of 8166 by markjenn Jan 24, 2005 (12:49 am)
Another issue with this computation (at least around my locale): Diesel is MORE expensive than gas, not less.   - Mark
#7609 of 8166 Re: My 2002 ML500 [mark156] by chumsae Jan 24, 2005 (9:27 am)
Replying to: mark156 (Jan 23, 2005 4:06 pm) My 2000 ML320 has heated side mirrors. Nothing needs to be on for them to work. I noticed that they were on one morning when there was a dew on the mirrors and steam was rising up within a few seconds of starting the car. On my car the heater element outline (4" dia round shape) shows up first, then the rest of the mirror surface is cleared.
#7610 of 8166 Thanks, chumsae, I might need to have mine checked. by mark156 Jan 24, 2005 (9:22 pm)
#7611 of 8166 My response by aaaedgarpoe Jan 25, 2005 (2:15 am)
Deisel is usually a little more this time of year since its winter and a harsh one at that!   (1)(200 000 * 2.30)/17 = $27,058.8235 (Premium)   (2)(200 000 * 2.00)/30 = $13,333.3333 (Diesel)   (1) - (2) =~ $14,000 savings.   Weekly cost savings=(13,333.3333/14)/52= $18.3150183 which is more than the $5 a week savings you, Mr Tidester proports as the truth.
#7612 of 8166 Also a slaesman in California told me today by aaaedgarpoe Jan 25, 2005 (2:24 am)
at about 5 PM as I sat in Corona and he in Orange county that Benz will have a new 2006 E320 CDI (yep, deisel) availble for sale as new in Calfornia in 2006.   I said, "I can't believe they can make the NO exmission requiremtns." He said he did not know but that is what he was told. All this darn verbal stuff.   If I recall correctly, in 2006, CA will mandate the low sulfer deisel fule, whihc will help meeth the tough CA requriments, but not the NO, unless the use a hybrid do reduce pull on the diesel -- NO is a big byproduct when the engine is called to do high acceleration. Replies to this message: jpouchet (Jan 25, 2005 9:01 am)

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