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#7643 of 8165 Re: Reconsidering [lizc] by wmquan Feb 13, 2005 (5:47 pm)
Replying to: lizc (Feb 13, 2005 1:56 pm) The M-class has been available in Europe for a while with a diesel. Emissions and other factors have kept it from coming to North America.   This Autoweek article claims that a diesel will be available in the M-class in 2006 (not this year), but only in 45 states where it can meet those states' emissions laws. California and New York would be two of the five states where it wouldn't be available.   http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101581   If it does happen, there are apparently at least two engine choices. They currently produce between 325-376 lbs/ft of torque, 188-221 hp, but might be tuned differently in the U.S. Replies to this message: lizc (Feb 14, 2005 12:32 am) wmquan (Feb 14, 2005 7:24 am)
#7644 of 8165 Re: Reconsidering [wmquan] by lizc Feb 14, 2005 (12:32 am)
Replying to: wmquan (Feb 13, 2005 5:47 pm) Thanks so much for that autoweek link. Do you have ANY idea on when exactly in 2006 they'll start taking orders for the NEW version of the ML in diesel then? will it be maybe already in the fall of 2005? ALso, do you know anything about buying a European spec version of it in the US for possible shipment to Europe? (that's where I live) I know they're available in Europe in diesel now, but prices are much lower in the US...Thank you for any information you can offer! Replies to this message: wmquan (Feb 14, 2005 7:24 am)
#7645 of 8165 Reconsidering [wmquan] by lizc by mercara Feb 14, 2005 (7:01 am)
Forget about importing an European Spec cars. Very expensive and time consuming. When I moved back from England. I wanted to bring back a Landrover Defender 110 Diesel. I did a lot of reasearch and it's not practical. Replies to this message: wmquan (Feb 14, 2005 7:54 am) lizc (Feb 14, 2005 10:37 am) steve_ (Feb 14, 2005 5:06 pm)
#7646 of 8165 Re: Reconsidering [lizc] by wmquan Feb 14, 2005 (7:24 am)
Replying to: lizc (Feb 14, 2005 12:32 am) Unfortunately, there is no accurate word on precisely when in 2006 the diesel will be in North America. It's all speculation at this point.   I'm not familiar with exporting a U.S. vehicle built to European spec, to Europe, sorry.
#7647 of 8165 Re: Reconsidering [wmquan] by lizc [mercara] by wmquan Feb 14, 2005 (7:54 am)
Replying to: mercara (Feb 14, 2005 7:01 am) I think lizc is asking about buying a European spec vehicle in the U.S. and then bringing it into Europe. As opposed to bringing over a European spec vehicle into the U.S.   I can't imagine MB would make it easy, for obvious reasons. Replies to this message: lizc (Feb 14, 2005 10:37 am) steve_ (Feb 14, 2005 5:06 pm)
#7648 of 8165 Re: Reconsidering [wmquan] by lizc [mercara] [wmquan] by lizc Feb 14, 2005 (10:37 am)
Replying to: wmquan (Feb 14, 2005 7:54 am) right, i was asking about bringing a european spec version from the US to Europe. but regardless of that...if anyone has any word on the diesel ML in 2006, i would love any info. Thank you! Replies to this message: steve_ (Feb 14, 2005 5:06 pm)
#7649 of 8165 Re: there's the double spacing ! [dt77] by raiderdt74 Feb 14, 2005 (4:02 pm)
Replying to: dt77 (Mar 01, 2001 10:43 pm) do not have my owners manual..and when i startbthe car,,i get a wrench and a -7000 blinking on the msgindicator,,and then it disappears,,should i panic?,,cuz the vehicle runs great...the dealer i bought it from says its been service but im worried..help!
#7650 of 8165 Re: Reconsidering [wmquan] by lizc [mercara] [wmquan] [lizc] by steve_ HOST Feb 14, 2005 (5:06 pm)
Replying to: lizc (Feb 14, 2005 10:37 am) Gray market cars are a pain to fix when they break. Parts may not be available in North America, meaning a long down time while you are waiting for something to be shipped. The warranty won't be honored here either.   Not to mention hassles trying to import it; it may not meet EPA or some specific safety regs.   Steve, Host
#7651 of 8165 What's the scoop on a third row of seats by accordfreak Feb 15, 2005 (12:33 pm)
Seems like the R-class is MB's answer to 7 passengers, but I can't seem to find out if they're going to have them in the new M. Anyone know? Also what do dealers say the new M is due in NJ?
#7652 of 8165 by wmquan Feb 15, 2005 (1:00 pm)
My limited understanding is that the 2006 M-class is NOT being released with a third-row option. And it probably won't be available in 2006.   And there is even an open question of "if ever." There had been talk about alternative classes for third rows, or a stretched W164 (new M-class platform) chassis.   The odd thing about it is that the W164 is bigger than the W163, yet the W163 has a third row option.   One purely speculative theory is that MB wants to make sure there is no intrusion into the third row in severe rear-end collisions, and that the new unibody design may make this more difficult without increasing the overall size of the vehicle. Again, this is purely speculative and may be totally wrong. The Volvo XC90 supposedly has very strong measures to protect against third-row intrusion and does this with its unibody-based platform.   Unfortunately, even if a buyer doesn't need a third row, lacking one puts the M-class more in Touareg/RX330 competitor territory than some other vehicles it competes with. Supposedly the next X5 will have a third row.

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