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#498 of 1758 Thanks Ya'll by fc3grrl Nov 16, 2000 (9:53 am)
I really appreciate the input from this BB, you guys are (mostly) great! My husband and I are hardcore rotary fans, with three second-gen RX-7 TII's in the driveway (plus an NA parts car), but this weekend we're going to go talk with the boys at the local DC dealership about a '01 Neon. I'm going to use my oldest baby, a lightning-fast '87 turbo with some nice mods, as a trade-in for something with pep *and* a back seat. We already have financing set up, and I'm thinking that this will enhance our bargaining power, along with the advice I got from a couple of ya'll's posts. What do you think? Either way, I'm excited about the prospect of riding in something with a more comfy ride (the RX's ride is hideous- I feel every pebble on the road!), without sacrificing insane entrance ramp speeds. Can we say "psyched"?!?! The performance, coupled with the easy payments, are what drew us, and of course we're going for the 5spd, even if it means ordering it from the factory. We checked out a lot of '01's after hours (and free of bothersome salesmen) tonight, but it was full of ES's with that god-awful automatic (whimpeeee! It's like driving a Ferrari with training wheels when you opt for the automatic, IMO). We have no gripes about engine noise, obviously, and while we can afford a more expensive car, we're holding out for a North American release of the updated RX-7 and the Neon will make the wait pleasant and fun. Anyway, thanks again, reply if you think the pre-approved financing will help, and I'll let you know how it goes. Bev
#499 of 1758 advice for performance by hersbird Nov 17, 2000 (4:44 am)
Don't buy an ES with the R/T's and ACR's just around the corner. Clearly you are interested in the best of performance and you'd be forever unhappy the first time you drove an ACR (or R/T if you want more creature comforts) if you settle on an ES. Check out this link: www.car-truck.com/chryed/buzz/b091400.htm Drive this car before making the final decision. I drove an ACR when I first was looking back in 1997 and was forever changed. It was before the announcement of a R/T version and I decedied I needed more creature comforts then a ACR offered. That and an ACR didn't get the 150hp motor in a four door (the 132 was what a sedan ACR got). I didn't think I would be able to feel the difference between the sport and and ACR but I could, I cant feel any difference between an R/T and a Sport but the ACR just has everything done right from a performance standpoint, there are just no compromises. A stripped down ARC would have cost amost the same as my loaded Sport, it just shows they are really putting some money in the suspension of an ACR.
#500 of 1758 Hersbird... I am sorry, my friend. by protegextwo Nov 17, 2000 (6:15 am)
"Props to your peeps", is not a racial slur in my social circle. I did not mean to offend you, my bad. Protegextwo
#501 of 1758 Ocha... by protegextwo Nov 17, 2000 (6:22 am)
Alex, how are you doing! I hope things are well for you and your family. How is the Neon running, my friend? I think it is awesome that you are so enthusiastic about your vehicle. That is really nice. Keep posting. Regards, Larry
#502 of 1758 Y2K Plymouth Neon LX by bugswest Nov 17, 2000 (8:19 am)
Hey all-      Just nor everyone's notice- I am not "ricing" out my Neon. I am planning to put modifications on it that will enhance performance, because I feel that this car has tons of more potential than any Civic, Protege, or any other popular over-hyped import out there. I am planning a dual tip exhaust from Thermal, it's a very understated, high quality system (much like the Neon itself). I will also be lowering the car 1.5 Inches with Eibach springs to improve the handling (which is great in stock form, but not as grippy as one would like). After that, I am not sure which route to go. I love the car itself. I used to own a VW Passat VR6 with an EIP tuning turbo system. That car had a whopping amount of HP at the wheels, but sadly enough it was falling apart. I looked at newer Vee-Dubs, Ford Focuses, and Honda Civics when the time came to get a new car. When I drove the Neon, I fell in love with the white guages, the 4-Disc CD changer, and the peppy ride. I knew the car was a bargain, but not that BIG of a bargain!! I am very happy with my car, the only problem I have noticed is that the windshield wiper fluid doesn't work, but I plan on having the friendly dealer remedy that ASAP. I am looking forward to having many stories to share for this board, and I will take all the Protege drivers at the track and smoke each an every one!! (nothing like a little friendly competition)                           Thanks,                                Elias
#503 of 1758 protegextwo by ochoa Nov 17, 2000 (3:51 pm)
Well my men i still been a workaholic person but in the way to my job i take time to listen my music !but¡ I don’t have a cd. In the car so I have to buy a cd changer and is going to cost me an eye of my face. The dealer sell this changer but is only for 4 cd and I want more. The car is like a rocket in the hi way and in one occasion I was stop by a police but I get free with a little money. (remember is Mexico.) But is ok because in Mexico they stop every one for money. But that is otter history. The only problem that I fill is a preoccupation is because the cup holders are bad distributed the car have 2 cups in the bottom and one in the upper part and when aim driving with my beer and aim in a company of a lady is uncomfortable to get the beer with out look the bottle. Note: is bury common to do this in Mexico is the land of the tequila, tequila, TEQUILA. SALUDOS DE SU AMIGO. ALEX.
#504 of 1758 Ocha... by protegextwo Nov 18, 2000 (1:25 am)
Alex, thank you for the update from south of the border. Enjoy your beer and your car! Larry
#505 of 1758 ACR specs...Holy Toledo! by fc3grrl Nov 18, 2000 (9:03 pm)
Wow and thanks hersbird! I just sent my hubby the link, and am waiting for his excited voice to reverberate throughout our house. I had no idea that anything new was coming down the pike for 2001, so my heart beat a little faster when I read the specs on the ACR. All I can think is "juicy!" LOL I'm not as knowledgeable as most guys, being a fluffy-headed female, but my husband has carefully cultivated my appetite for performance, and I think when he sees the ACR he's going to call the salesman we met with to see if he can get an ETA on these babies. We've already sent him on an errand to find us a 5spd (and boy are they reluctant to accomodate that request, it's weird, really), but now I want to wait and see the bottom line on the ACR's. I might be risking the possibility of us having to buy two if they feel as good as they look, but for the price, how could I complain? *eg* Much Thanks! Bev
#506 of 1758 2001 ACR by hersbird Nov 19, 2000 (2:06 am)
Well people have actually taken delivery of 2001 Neon R/T's (with 16" wheels, a good looking rear spoiler, 150 HP motor, and even leather interior available). I haven't heard of any ACR's that have been delivered although I'd be surprised if you couldn't place an order for one. The one think that bums me about the ACR is you can't get those awesome new 16" wheels from the factory. I bet they actually don't help in handling, just as going to a lower profile tire on the old ACR sometimes hurt handling, but boy do they look good. Same thing for the spoiler, I know it has zero affect on aerodynamics but this new spoiler looks good too. The ACR has alway been a sleeper, I guess they are keeping that legacy intact. Look at the dodge website for a few pictures of the wheels, spoiler, interior, etc. www.4adodge.com
#507 of 1758 PCV Recall/Drivability affected? by 71charger Nov 24, 2000 (2:26 pm)
I'm a little nervous about letting the master tech wizards at Fitzgerald's Auto Mall screw with a car that's running perfectly fine. Does having this recall affect drivability at all? Any one have any real world experience to share on this one? I let the Dodge boys do an emissions recall fix on my Shelby back in the 80s and it never ran right again (until I undid it that is). Anyone in cold climates actually experience the problem this is supposed to fix. I believe in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school.

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