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#608 of 1758 dhughes3: Response from an "elitist foreign car fanatic"... by protegextwo Apr 21, 2001 (10:42 pm)
Duane, I object too you alls statement. We EFCF (elitist foreign car fanatics) are lazy and stupid tooo. Pleaze rember the illiterate folks cannot reed and will never no a bout propper gramner and spellin. By the way what do u make of jcasetnl posts. Sounds like that feller is unhapy with his domestic vehicle? I doubt he will purchase a domestic vehicle again. Well thats alright with us EFCF's, we nead new folks to buy all the promlem free Japanese vehicles are country is churning out. Never heard of a head gaskett problem with a Honda, did you?   Resspectfully; Protegextwo
#609 of 1758 Hondo's and headgaskets by hersbird Apr 22, 2001 (7:04 pm)
Never heard much about headgaskets on the Honda but the distributers are pretty bad from 93-96 and they cost more then a neon headgasket to replace. On top of that they strand the car on the side of the road with zero warning, unlike the neon's headgasket problem. My brother had a loaner 93 toyota corolla for a month while waiting for his WRX to arrive. It burned (not leaked) 2 quarts of oil every 500 miles and it had 65K miles on it. Maybe it's just me but the simple, inexpensive, on-time fix that some neon's require seems minor compared to what you get from those 'elite' import brands.
#610 of 1758 funny about honda.. by beanboy Apr 22, 2001 (8:54 pm)
Friend just had his distributor bearing fry on his '93... $300 or so he says.
#611 of 1758 by eneth Apr 23, 2001 (5:29 am)
If you can get a head gasket done for $300 (without factory payment, that is) - let me know where. If they do a good job, I'd like to earn a 10% commission on referrals - people would gladly pay $330 for a complete job (around here, a 4-cylinder would be more like $600-800; V6 about $1200-1500.
#612 of 1758 umm.. by beanboy Apr 23, 2001 (6:23 am)
Dealer is doing them up the street from me for $100 with approval from corporate, at least last summer. Shame DC never did officially take the stance of replacing the headgaskets. Good dealership and/or enough bitching will get yeah the $100 deal. Not sure how much longer it will last though, the worst case neons being 6 years-old now. If mine ever does go, not going to go to a dealer-- will get a port and polish at a shop somewhere. Not worth opening up the engine and not doing any performance modifications, tehe.   On the subject of modifications, ordering up koni struts, thicker roll bars and high rate springs this week--WOOHOO   -B
#613 of 1758 headgasket by protegextwo by dhughes3 Apr 24, 2001 (6:54 am)
I was going to remind you of the distributor problem with Hondas, but looks like someone beat me to it! Thing is, no one in the press spouts off about these problems. Toyota had a head gasket problem in the '80s, but I'll bet you haven't heard of it. Honda has a transmission problem with the V-6's, but little gets said about it. IT'S A CONSPIRACY OF THE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT CROWD!! Thanks for your good natured and humorous reply.
#614 of 1758 Head gaskets by hersbird Apr 24, 2001 (4:29 pm)
I thought the headgasket in my Jeep may be bad so I got 3 quotes to fix it. It's a inline 6 so should be comparable to the neon. The dealer wanted $430. The AAA recommended ASE shop wanted $400 and a respectable ASE shop wanted $360. All these prices are parts and labor. The honda Distributer costs more then $350 all by itself w/o counting any labor. Maybe the above bearing problem was fixed w/o replacing the entire unit. The Toyota headgasket problem went well into the 90's on v-6 trucks and SUV's. On a side note the headgasket in my jeep is fine, it was a tiny leak from the water pump gasket that was cured for now by $2 worth of alumnaseal.
#615 of 1758 Dhughes3 and hersbird... by protegextwo Apr 24, 2001 (7:13 pm)
Guys, I saw very nice looking Neon, today. It had the word Expresso printed on the front quarter panel behind the wheel well. What is a Plymouth Neon Expresso? How does it differ from the regular Neon?   Respectfully; Larry
#616 of 1758 by eneth Apr 25, 2001 (5:26 am)
dhughes3,   There is a big difference between the way Toyota handled the 3.0L truck-V6 gasket problem and the way DaimlerChrysler has handled its problems.   Toyota notified owners of the problem, offered to fix it for free (up to and including a replacement engine if necessary) for 100,000 miles. DaimlerChrysler left its customers, as usual, to twist in the wind - forcing them to ask for recompense from the dealers.   That may in part explain why Toyota is setting sales records, while DaimlerChrysler's Chrysler Group is planning the expiration of the Neon, closing plants, and laying off workers.
#617 of 1758 Expresso... by vocus Apr 25, 2001 (6:53 am)
Was the car you saw a new-generation Neon, or an old one? If it was the old one, then the Expresso was an appearance package offered on the Neon coupes and sedans for a couple years. It included appearance items and a different interior, but not much else. My roommate's ex-wife has a 1996 Neon Expresso with only like 34K on it, and it's relatively trouble-free. Yet his 2000 ES has been in the shop 10 times in one year. He only bought the 2000 because the 1996 was so good. Weird, considering the older models are rumored to have engine and other problems, not the new ones.

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