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Replying to: hpowders (May 16, 2006 9:18 am) Here is the answer for me: I have an Accord for when I must behave on the road, and my 530 for when I want a heart thumping driving experience. 
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Replying to: hpowders (May 16, 2006 9:18 am) So you had a 650.... The V8 5s are nice, but after seeing life on the Autobahn, Mercedes is calling my name. |
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To answer some of your questions and put your mind to rest about BMW reliability: My Mom has an '05 530iA that she leased in December '04 with a little over 20,000 miles on it. It has been to the dealer exactly once for her 1st service. BTW I'm actually considering buying her car when the lease is up in a few years. My Dad has an '04 X5 3.0iA that he leased in February '04 with close to 48,000 miles on it. It has only been back to the dealership for 2 scheduled maintenance trips (The 3rd is coming tomorrow) and once for a front brake caliper that locked up on him. The only problem he has is that the rear hatch keeps popping open intermittently. If you've got a TSX that's a stick, check out a 5er in a stick. Manual transmission BMWs are very rewarding to drive. As far as switching from Japanese brands, DO IT! BMW not only gives you a full 4 year/50K warranty, but includes scheduled maintenance as well. I have a HOnda Prelude which is very reliable, but I've got to have the oil changed every 4K miles, replaced the clutch at 52K miles (now at 67K and going strong). |
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Replying to: hpowders (May 16, 2006 6:49 am) Your post is totally laughable!! I disagree. I like Jimmy's post. the BMW HP do need to catch up. Why can't the BMW has more powerful engine than a Camry that cost 1/3 of the money? I think it is the lack of technology for Engine Performance. BMW is paying the most of fuel consumption federal fine in any car company. Again, that is due to the lack of technology for Fuel Efficiency. It is working with GM and Chysler for a Hybrid! come on, where is the standard? where is the German pride!!!! |
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Replying to: cmr530i (May 16, 2006 4:22 pm) |
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Replying to: sorter (May 16, 2006 5:33 pm) My 545 V-8 gives me 21 mpg on average-60% highway, 40% city which is much better than the Infiniti M V-6! The 3 series will give me 25mpg. Where's the fuel inefficiency? |
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Replying to: sorter (May 16, 2006 5:33 pm)  I'm baffled by your post. BMWs recent engines (say since the late 1990s) have proven to be some of the most efficient ever made at any given power rating. Take both of their recent 3.0 liter I6 engines as an example. If you compare the 330i against say the G35, the 330i is more than a match for the G35 around a track (although not in straight line acceleration, which is only one metric), and at the same time able to deliver real world steady state highway fuel economy over 30 MPG. I've never even heard a G35 owner claim as much as 25. In my case, my 530i was consistently able to eek out between 30 and 32 mpg during my frequent runs between New Hampshire and NYC, which by the way, isn't exactly Cruise Control territory. Regarding Hybrids. Puleeze! That's a still-born technology if I've ever seen one. My bet is that BMW is pretending to pursue hybrid technology for political reasons. My hope is that they (or any of the other German manufacturers for that matter) never produce even a single hybrid car. Said another way, the BMW 330d is capable of well over 40 mpg and still delivers very good performance. Why would anybody want a porky hybrid slug-mobile when wonderful driving machines like the 330d, 535d and E320 CDI are already being mass produced and simply waiting for the U.S.A. to get its ULSD act together? I sure as hell don't. Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: breld (May 16, 2006 7:45 am) This particular car WITH the stick shift will very likely satisfy many of your wants and nullify most of your concerns. Theses models are subvented (the lease prices are low, that is.) You can nearly have your cake and eat it too. Prior year's 5's are NOT offered with AWD. The M35x is a sweet car, but probably still going to be more money even now than the above suggestion. And, it is ONLY 5spd auto. The A6 is only auto, but I love mine -- would TODAY rather have the 5er in X drive format with a stick. Rather have the Audi with the auto though. In your situation, I would probably work on the 525xi w/stick as my first tactic. |
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. . .the Horsepower War. All of the Germans do, for whatever reason, seem to lag behind the Americans and the Japanese in HP. Hmmm, after two Bimmers and 28 Audis, THEY ALWAYS HAVE. Yet, time and time again, "nothing satisfies, like beef." The German cars in a broad statement, I will admit, are frequently less powerful than what might be considered ($) the competition; but, they perform in a way that is more dynamic and far more satisfying. The Infinit M's "get it." But even they don't quite "have it" (but they are close.) An Avalon may well (it is) be more powerful than a 5 with a 6 cylinder engine. If that is all you want, go get it. You probably won't get many takers here on the notion that the Camry or Avalon, et al, can compete with a 5 series (or to carry the flags, A6 or E class) -- the Germans, despite some lower hp numbers are all about performance. This is not to stick my head in the sand and deny they do need at least 10% more under the bonnet, at any one time, to keep fighting the "War." The monthly (US) sales figures for this class of car are posted over on the LPS forum regularly. The top two are Germans. The bottom one is Japanese. If voting with dollars counts for anything, you make the call. I didn't see the 5, the E and the Avalon on the same list. HP or not, it just isn't the same no matter how much you may wish it were.  
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