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#11377 of 12657 erickpl & shipo by nyccarguy May 17, 2006 (6:59 pm)
Paul -- That M5 is a phenomenal looking car. I've seen quite a few (considering it is a limited production car) since its introduction. The exhause note is simply intoxicating. I'm glad at least one of us nuts on the board here actually got to drive one:)   Happy Birthday Shipo!
#11378 of 12657 Re: Huh? [sorter] by rich545 May 17, 2006 (7:27 pm)
Replying to: sorter (May 16, 2006 5:33 pm) First of all, there's a lot more the HP that goes into what a car costs. The Camry is like those generic cans of vegetables you see in the supermarket. Bland. Secondly, drive the cars and research them more thouroughly before you post because the 2007 Camry V6 is not faster than the 2007 530i. Both make 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds. Now, you don't really think that the Camry's suspension can handle the turns like the 530's either do you? Do you really think Honda spends a much to produce a Camry as BMW does to produce a 5 Series? HP is only one part of performance. Most of the time it isn't even the most important part. Replies to this message: cmybimmergo (May 18, 2006 8:18 pm)
#11379 of 12657 Hope you saw the History channel by markcincinnati May 17, 2006 (7:36 pm)
The other nite, either the History or Discovery channel had a special program on about the Autobahn.   After watching the show, you have a sense of the abilities that the Germans build into their cars due to the circumstances they find themselves in.   I posted, over on the LPS forum, some thougths about the new Q7 and my drive in my lowly 255HP A6 today. I agree with Shipo (and happy b-day) I am finding less and less reason to consider the 8 cylinder versions of anything anymore.   But, when I move to Montana (not really), I'll be back to the need for that big gas sucking V8.   The German cars are about speed and performance not simply 0-100kph quickness and a floaty ride to 75MPH.   Are they worth $50K?   No doubt. Replies to this message: 530ir1150r (May 18, 2006 4:50 am) shipo (May 18, 2006 9:13 am) 530ir1150r (May 18, 2006 11:00 am) and 1 more... bargamon (May 19, 2006 11:29 am)
#11380 of 12657 Re: Hope you saw the History channel [markcincinnati] by 530ir1150r May 18, 2006 (4:50 am)
Replying to: markcincinnati (May 17, 2006 7:36 pm) An issue of "Advertising Age" in the last few months had an article about car manufacturers expenditures on advertising per vehicle sold. Probably calendar year 2005. From memory, Honda and Toyota were around $500 and BMW was approaching $1000.   One of my definitions of marketing is "turning a want into a need".   Is a BMW worth 2 Camrys? Thats an individual decision. Just be aware that BMW is spending twice as much as Toyota to make you think it is a good decision. Replies to this message: shipo (May 18, 2006 9:13 am) 530ir1150r (May 18, 2006 11:00 am) cdnpinhead (May 18, 2006 5:59 pm)
#11382 of 12657 HP is important... by srfast May 18, 2006 (5:32 am)
in a straight line, but I put handling over it. What good is HP if you have to stomp on the brakes at every curve? It's all about balance - power & handling and that is what BMW excels in.   Happy Birthday Shipo. We're both Taurus'.   Regards...JL
#11383 of 12657 Y'all are a HOOT... by JingleJill May 18, 2006 (5:55 am)
Okay, I have to put my two cents in on this discussion...    German cars are not about HP. Yeah, the Japanese can have the maximum horsepower but you have to redline it and listen to the whine of the engine just to use it.    With the BMW's the torque is the key and it is all available at lower RPMs.    I don't think we even need to go into the discussion of how the BMWs are just more solid cars.    Now now before everyone starts yelling at me. I've owned both (Acura TL-S, Mazda 3, Nissan, etc...) and I keep going back to the BMWs.    If you want HP, then go buy a Japanese car. If you want the ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE, then there is only ONE way to go... BMW    Happy belated Shipo...    Stacy
#11384 of 12657 New 2007 530xi by lc22 May 18, 2006 (8:38 am)
I have had my 2007 530xi for one month. What an experience! I am an anal engineer and I took almost 10 months to pick a new car. I test drove all the cars mentioned in the above threads since I was having a debate between my heart and brain. The 530xi is the only car that satisfied both of them.   What an incredible driving car. I look forward to driving it everyday and like someone mentioned earlier, I have not last second of sleep wondering if I should have purchased the Toyota, Acura, MB or Lexus. Everyone has to make their own decisions but I know I made the right one. I just love it....LC
#11385 of 12657 Re: Hope you saw the History channel [530ir1150r] by shipo May 18, 2006 (9:13 am)
Replying to: 530ir1150r (May 18, 2006 4:50 am) "... From memory, Honda and Toyota were around $500 and BMW was approaching $1000.    One of my definitions of marketing is "turning a want into a need".    Is a BMW worth 2 Camrys? Thats an individual decision. Just be aware that BMW is spending twice as much as Toyota to make you think it is a good decision."   Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Honda sell several times the number of cars BMW does here in North America? If so then all that $500/$1,000 figure means is that Honda has more cars to spread their advertising costs across. Said another way, Honda is most likely spending much more in advertising than BMW.   Best Regards, Shipo Replies to this message: 530ir1150r (May 18, 2006 11:00 am) cdnpinhead (May 18, 2006 5:59 pm)
#11386 of 12657 Re: Hope you saw the History channel [shipo] by 530ir1150r May 18, 2006 (11:00 am)
Replying to: shipo (May 18, 2006 9:13 am) Sure, but where does that argument end. I'm sure their advertising departments are twice as large and their advertising more spread out. BMW is still spending twice per vehicle than Toyota or Honda to either sell you a car or convince you it was a good decision to buy a BMW. A good ad will do both.   The other side of your position is SAAB at over $2000 per vehicle.   In the end overhead is overhead, and the buyer pays for it. Replies to this message: cdnpinhead (May 18, 2006 5:59 pm)

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