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Whats new for 2007? by bargamon
May 22, 2006 (8:25 am)
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What are the changes?
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Re: Maintenance - does 5 series cost more? [330blast] by jabrolta
May 23, 2006 (6:05 am)
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Replying to: 330blast (May 21, 2006 3:04 pm)

Congrats on the your purchase. About a month ago, I got a 2005 545i. I knew I was going to keep this car for a while so I was inquiring about the ext. maintenance warranty. I email all the dealers in the MD area and they quoted me around $1395 to $1795. I pressured them and I got VOB BMW to sell it to me for $1200. Dealers usually can drop their warranty prices between $200-500. Prior to purchasing the ext. maintenance warranty, I asked my SA what services would be needed after 50k? He said at 60k I would need brake pads, rotors, and some other things. He said it would cost around $1500 - $2000. So it seemed to both of us that buying the ext. maintenance warranty will save me money. All I did was lock in the price today (which is lower than the service), for services in the future, which mostly likely increase.
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Still tooling around in 530iA with sport pkg (2001) by dabimmer
May 23, 2006 (10:22 am)
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and still enjoying it immensely. I put new Michelin PS2 all around after 34K on Primacys that were OEM. All the comments that I have made in the past still apply and this is really a great car even withn the Steptronic Auto. The new tires are just the icing on the cake and what a cake ! Nice to see that quite a few regulars are still here. And as for Shipo belatedly a happy, happy. I quit having those a few years ago.
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Re: Maintenance - does 5 series cost more? [jabrolta] by stl540
May 23, 2006 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: jabrolta (May 23, 2006 6:05 am)

I have a 2002 540i with 60K miles. Took it to an independent shop in St. Louis called Bimmers R Us who specializes in BMWs for the Inspection II plus to replace the front brakes. They claim to be 20% cheaper than the dealer. To make a long story short, it was a huge mistake. I asked for the Inspection II service and they said they understood what that entailed. Well....they replaced the spark plugs, rear differential fluid, and fuel filter, none of which are recommended by BMW at 60K. BUT...they did not flush the radiator or replace the brake fluid which is recommended. I then realized they replaced the oil with Castrol Syntec Blend rather that full Castrol Synthetic. They also put the cheapest spark plugs in the car (Plat+4), but charged me for the high-end plugs. The list price for a Plat+4 for a single plug is $6.50...they charged me $16.39 EACH.
 
I called BimmersRUs and explained the situation. At first the owner, Greg, said the put the full synthetic oil in the car. He said they made a mistake when keying it on the ticket. After additional pressure, he changed his mind and he changed the oil again, putting full synthetic in. He also changed the plugs to the Bosch FGR7DQP which are the ones I initially paid for. I also had the antifreeze and brake fluid changed when I took it back. He split the cost on the work.
 
They recommended that I replace the AC belt and the centerlink (tierod) including a 4-wheel alignment.
 
One week after I get the car home, the belts are squealing and I notice that the belt sounds like it is slipping when I put the car in gear. I also noticed that the plastic cover under the car behind the front wheels were pulled off during the service, but was not put back on correctly. I now have the plastic pieces hanging down.
 
Needless to say, I did not have a good experience using an independent shop. I learned my lesson. It may cost a little more to have a dealer perform the service, but I have a lot more trust in them. Plaza Motors is the dealer I used for the past 4 years with huge satisfaction and I will be back for all future service needs. I spent $2100 with Bimmers R Us. If I paid $400 more for to a dealer, it would be worth it. Less hassle, plus I can trust the parts they are putting in the car are genuine.
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On a positive note by stl540
May 23, 2006 (4:56 pm)
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I absolutely LOVE my 2002 540i with sport package. The car is a blast to drive. It has been worry free for the first 60K of spirited driving. It stills feel like it is new. I plan to keep the car for another 4-5 years given I do not have many major repairs that will cause me enough headaches to purchase a new one. I expect some repairs. I just hope the repairs are minimal.
 
I used this forum 6 years ago (2 years prior to purchase) to research the 5-Series. I am appreciative of the knowledge of the posters. I chose the car that was best for me based on how I like to drive.
 
It sure was beneficial for me to understand the car from a (fairly) unbiased perspective. The posters dispelled many of the myths I had about BMW and also RWD. I thought I needed AWD (it is unnecessary). I also thought BMW were somewhat unreliable and super expensive to maintain. While it is a little more expensive, the parts are much higher quality than most cars. I understand why the parts are more expensive. If you own a BMW, you probably understand everytime you hit your brakes. What other car has a feel like that? The cost of the parts are sure to be more expensive.
 
Happy driving!!
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Re: Maintenance - does 5 series cost more? [stl540] by cmr530i
May 23, 2006 (6:13 pm)
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Replying to: stl540 (May 23, 2006 4:45 pm)

Just the name alone, Bimmers R Us, is scary! Who referred you? Do you belong to the BMWCCA? You can get great info on competent independent shops in your area through them. For $40 a year you get Roundel and your local chapter's news letter, plus other perks.
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Re: Maintenance - does 5 series cost more? [stl540] by markcincinnati
May 24, 2006 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: stl540 (May 23, 2006 4:45 pm)

There ARE plenty of good to great non dealer service outlets.
 
I too have had some negative non dealer service issues; but I have also had some not so positive dealer issues, too. The difference is the dealer seems to -- so far -- always be ready, willing and able to make things right.
 
Funny, the issue I had was with a simple test I gave an indie: oil and filter change on an Audi.
 
Audis seem to require a body shop to change fluids and this indie couldn't seem to find all the parts when he put things back together and when I found some oil drops was likewise not pleased with having to disassemble the car again to tighten or whatever had to be done.
 
I am now "not wealthy enough" to use an indie.
 
These cars are way to expensive to risk to a non dealer.
 
And, this is NOT a universal truth, but a general truth.
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Re: Maintenance - does 5 series cost more? [cmr530i] by stl540
May 25, 2006 (5:05 am)
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Replying to: cmr530i (May 23, 2006 6:13 pm)

I am part of the CCA. I did not do enough due diligence. I read a little on the local chapter forums, but did not post to ask for specific opinions. My bad. I definitely learned from the situation.
 
BTW..I love the CCA. The Roundel mag is a nice read. I wish I had more time to doing club events.
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Re: Maintenance - does 5 series cost more? [stl540] by div2
May 25, 2006 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: stl540 (May 25, 2006 5:05 am)

I've found it helpful to line up a good independent shop and a good dealer for each specific marque that I own. I perform oil services and the Inspection 1 myself, and I tend to use the indie shop for routine maintenance that I don't have the time or desire to do on my own. The dealer gets most of the more intensive specialized work. I'll also use the dealer when they offer specials for services such as brake fluid or coolant changes. This system has worked out well with my BMWs, Jeep TJ and Speed Triple.
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Re: Maintenance - does 5 series cost more? [jabrolta] by cmybimmergo
May 26, 2006 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: jabrolta (May 23, 2006 6:05 am)

I was inquiring about the ext. maintenance warranty
 
There's an extended maintenance plan and there's an extended warranty. One covers routine service, and the other is for failures. Which did you buy?

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