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Has anyone emailed Toyota asking what's up with this? A couple possible reasons I could think of: 1) There is a shortage of the new 3.5L V6, at least for a year. 2) They already have some 3.0 V6 made, and it makes the most sense to put it in the U.S. GS300. Japan is launching the Lexus name for the first time, and they want to put out the best (GS350) in Japan. The U.S. Avalon, being a larger car, was developed from the get-go with only the 3.5L in mind. 3) Combination of the above. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 18, 2005 9:16 am) With the Acura RL and shortly introduced Infiniti M, Merc E350 and the upgraded BMW 5 series, how does Lexus expect to meet let alone exceed the competition in this bread and butter class? Let me beat a dead horse and again mention the deathblow, chop us off at the knees, hit a man while he is down (and any other pathetic cliche) Lexus GS350 release in a year or two. |
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| It still makes no sense to me. I know the 3.5L is a chopped and tweaked version of 4Runner's 4.0L V6. Is it possible that Toyota feels the Avalon version isnt Lexus refined enough? (Similar to how Caddy XLR uses a more refined DOHC but significantly less powerful V8 than its Corvette cousin). Perhaps they want more time with it to banish any remaining "trucky traits?" | |
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Replying to: mrdlexus (Jan 18, 2005 7:02 am)
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Replying to: maxhonda99 (Jan 18, 2005 12:29 pm) |
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I like the new GS300, but the GS350 bothers me like everybody else on the forum. What can you do. Its a corporate decision. GS sales in '04 and '05 were awful. They need the GS350 engine to compete. Everybody else has the same gadgets as the GS300, except they have bigger engines. I'm also sure the base price will be $3K more than a M35. The winner will most likely be Infiniti. They will reasonably price the M35 and possibly offer some discounts. Infiniti is building prestige through sales while Lexus believes you should buy a GS because its a Lexus. That mentality is only reserved for the leaders, BMW & Mercedes, and they are having trouble selling $60K E320's & 530i's. Lets hope the GS300 is priced accordingly.
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Replying to: mg808 (Jan 18, 2005 2:42 pm) Also, I feel that people forget that BMWs entry 5 series is powered by a 184 horse 2.5L. 245 hp is significantly more than that, and the Lexus 3.0L has more torque as well, so if the pricing is similar to to the 2.5L 5 series, I dont see the big issue. Last I read, the base 5 series has "leatherette" (read: vinyl) standard even, so one would likely need to get a few options on the 5 as well, to bring it up to the basics provided on the Infiniti M and Lexus GS. I think this is just an interim strategy for Lexus regarding the engines. And who's to say that the 3.0L is going to be replaced by the 3.5L? Couldnt Lexus run a GS300, a GS350, and a GS4xx once the new V8 is introduced? Just my .02 ~alpha |
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| With the way Toyota is going to priced this GS, it is a Suicide for sales volumn. How can the dealer put a V6 GS AWD side by side with a V8 GX for about the same price? | |
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The First Ting: Alpha is right (for once)! Lexus WILL have 3 engines in the GS. Why? 'Cus A6 had 3, the 5-series has 3, and the E-Class has 3. How would a 245HP GS300, 280HP GS350, and 310HP GS30 stack up against BMW's engine lineup (218, 258, 333)? I'd say pretty good. Mind you buyers in this class aren't here for power first! People get the E-Class because the S-Class is too expensive, and the C-Class is cheap and cheezy. People get the 5-series because the 745 pissed everyone off, and everybody else bought a 3-series! Lexus needs to make a Lexus LS, but with bolder styling, a fun suspension, hipper interior, and a sweet price. Make a younger, hipper LS, with big rims, sharp handling, and a glitzy interior. Make it fun! Then make the IS (in your offices, over the past 3 years), a smaller offshoot of that image. Then Lexus can trump them all with a 4th engine (GS450h)! The 2nd Ting: Is I only know one Ting! LOL! DrFill
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Jan 19, 2005 8:52 am) Ouch! What have I been wrong about? ~alpha |
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