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For the last time people, Lexus is No Longer toyota Rebadge, so let goes of it's past. They promised it's nothing like Lexus we known in drivng experience before. I don't know about Infiniti, there is no confirm about it's no longer nissan Rebadge. |
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Rebadging is what Caddy did (not too long ago) with Tahoe and Escalade. There are degrees of rebadging, and doing it well. You can make two cars, of the same size and platform, engine, and give them vastly different looks and personalities. The Lexus ES and Camry is done very well, as evidenced by the mighty sales of both. Their identity don't wash over each other. Each buyer gets a look and identity for the car that is suitable for the price paid. You sit in an ES and you don't think this is a Camry at all! Everybody does it, but few do it well. DrFill
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| It depends on what's implied by a "rebadge". If it means GM and Ford's "badge engineering" then no, Toyota doesnt do that. If it means platform and some part sharing, then yes, Lexus still has plenty of platform shared Toyota cars. All of the SUVs, and ES come from NA market Toyotas. Thats probably going to change in another 10 years or so, but for now they are doing a pretty good job of making Lexus appear to be worth the additional cash. An example of a bad job is the Infiniti I30\I35, which was literally a dead ringer for a Maxima GLE. | |
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Jan 23, 2005 5:05 am) The ES and the Camry look alot alike on the outside. |
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In my book, ES/Camry is an example of rebadging. But Toyota does it very well, making ES luxurious interior worth the upgrade. Passat/A4 is another example of very successful rebadging, but I think the two are moving to different platforms. New Lexus design made in Italy? http://www.just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=46933 |
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The Passat and A4 are not a simple badge job. There are many more changes than that. Ditto for the ES330 and Camry. These two are examples of platform sharing. Though I'd say the A4 and Passat are further apart in looks than the ES330 and Camry, but thats neither here nor there. For 2006 the Passat switches to the Golf platform which has nothing to do with the A4 or A6. A badge job is the current Cadillac Escalade and its Chevy cousins, same vehicles right down to the body panels. Another badge job is the Saab 9-7x, a rebadged Chevy Trailblazer and Saab 9-2x which is a rebadged/grilled Subaru WRX. M |
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How's it goin'? Been a long time. Funny article I read about GM's outlook on '05, with high Health care, no new cars till late in the year, and the full-size makeovers in Spring of 2006. Sales of Full-size SUV's down 5% in '04. GM's GM shrugs it off, blames Expedition for the drop (down 12% for the year), and sees a bright, stable future for GM's biggest SUV's. Betting their farm on that is....interesting. DrFill
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| You'll notice that both GM and Ford have been forced to make Highlander competitors though (albiet not very good ones). I think both are in for a bit of a surprise, the Excursion was DOA, and people just dont want a Suburban anymore. | |
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If they lose big trucks/SUVs, game over!! DrFill |
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Jan 24, 2005 11:20 am) I must say that all the guessing about the GS' future engines is interesting reading to say the least. I can't believe you guys don't see what they're going to do its clear as day to me....lol. M |
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