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Replying to: callmedrfill (Jan 23, 2005 5:05 am) The ES and the Camry look alot alike on the outside. |
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In my book, ES/Camry is an example of rebadging. But Toyota does it very well, making ES luxurious interior worth the upgrade. Passat/A4 is another example of very successful rebadging, but I think the two are moving to different platforms. New Lexus design made in Italy? http://www.just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=46933 |
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The Passat and A4 are not a simple badge job. There are many more changes than that. Ditto for the ES330 and Camry. These two are examples of platform sharing. Though I'd say the A4 and Passat are further apart in looks than the ES330 and Camry, but thats neither here nor there. For 2006 the Passat switches to the Golf platform which has nothing to do with the A4 or A6. A badge job is the current Cadillac Escalade and its Chevy cousins, same vehicles right down to the body panels. Another badge job is the Saab 9-7x, a rebadged Chevy Trailblazer and Saab 9-2x which is a rebadged/grilled Subaru WRX. M |
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How's it goin'? Been a long time. Funny article I read about GM's outlook on '05, with high Health care, no new cars till late in the year, and the full-size makeovers in Spring of 2006. Sales of Full-size SUV's down 5% in '04. GM's GM shrugs it off, blames Expedition for the drop (down 12% for the year), and sees a bright, stable future for GM's biggest SUV's. Betting their farm on that is....interesting. DrFill
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| You'll notice that both GM and Ford have been forced to make Highlander competitors though (albiet not very good ones). I think both are in for a bit of a surprise, the Excursion was DOA, and people just dont want a Suburban anymore. | |
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If they lose big trucks/SUVs, game over!! DrFill |
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Jan 24, 2005 11:20 am) I must say that all the guessing about the GS' future engines is interesting reading to say the least. I can't believe you guys don't see what they're going to do its clear as day to me....lol. M |
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| Oh by all means then good sage, please enlighten us. | |
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I think its pretty simple. Lexus isn't going to do a GS350 until the next generation V8 debuts in the LSxxx. When the next V8 debuts, then and only then will the GS350 come to the market. You know 280 and 300 hp totals are way to close to justify anyone buying the GS430. The hybrids and where they fit are a seperate issue. Those who say Toyota didn't develop a new 3.0 direct-injection V6 for nothing car are correct, then engine will live on in other products. Possibly the next Camry where mpg matters more than in a 280hp GS350 because they hybrid GS450h will be the one for mpg seekers. Now what I don't understand is why anyone would buy a ES330 now with the new Avalon coming. It has the same interior look, more power and more room, only thing its even uglier. M |
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| Yeah that is a good question. The '05 Avalon has heaps more power, more room, and in Limited trim, basically 98% as much luxury. I have to wonder in '07 when the ES gets redesigned, why Lexus wouldnt base an ES350 around the Avalon, rather than the Camry. | |
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