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3068 messages, Last post on Sep 18, 2009 at 6:41 AM
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I agree that the new GS looks good, sporty in fact. DrFill is completely wrong, but that's his opinion! Toyota said Lexus should have its looks, just like GM did to Cadillac .. and hey! It worked! 
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That second paragraph of yours sure is loaded with excuses. No problem if there is a little Maxima in the new GS??? Err...what? For 40-55K I don't want to be reminded of a Maxima. Let me be clear, I don't think the car will be a "failure" I just don't think it will sell much better than the old car especially after the first model year. Lexus showed a flashy and sleek concept, and touted that it was their new design direction and then produced this thing? Only most devoted of the brand can see any similarities between the LF-S showcar and this thing. Amazing, the Europeans can take a design from concept to production with very few alterations or at least still looking at least *similar* to the concept, but the perfect Lexus can't and isn't expected to be able to do the same. Excuses, excuses. "Pls note that new evolutionary designs are pretty difficult these days." Wrong, it's revolutionary designs that are "difficult" to do and even more difficult for the public to accept, not evolutionary, which really means and update of the previous, which is what Lexus did...warm over the previous car with a unsightly thickish rear end section, nothing like the very lithe and airy concept car. M |
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| it will take a while to warm-up to. Need to see it on the road and in different colors. Love the front end, evolution of the base GS DNA not revolution. The rear doesn't thrill me, but its not that bad. Love the interior. It will be a hit, but won't conquer the 5-series | |
| They've toned it down, haven't they? I remember the front wheel arches at Tokyo were much more pronounced. If so, I think it's a mistake! If someone would post the Tokyo and Detroit pics together, that'd help! | |
| I had originally wanted to trade my 97 BMW E39 on the new E60, but was so turned off by the stylng and features (I-drive, etc) that I deferred. My choices then came down to the new GS, the new M45, the new STS, or the E500. While, I have not seen any of these in person yet, I was somewhat disappointed by the info on the new GS. Yes, it is not bad, yes it is better than the previous model - BUT - it does not obviously distinguish itself from many other models (nissan maxima, etc), and the (at this point) failure to enhance the V8 horsepower is inexcusable, especially in the face of the competions' offerings at similar prices. Someone at Lexus needs to kick themselves in the butt.... | |
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The competition is priced higher, and the current V8 offers plenty of power as is, period. It is definitely competitive with the E500 and 540i. ~alpha |
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| I am not so sure that the competition is "priced higher". I grant you that the BMW is, but we don't know yet about the new M45 or STS (nor do we know what the new GS will sell for, but probably more than the current one). I see the E500 as more of a competitor for the LS than the GS. In any event, I still feel that Lexus missed a chance to differentiate the GS more from the previous model, especially in terms of performance. The Infiniti, BMW and Caddy engines already make more power and it just seems unfortunate that Lexus didn't tweak the 4.3 a bit more. | |
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| I'm sure that the Lexus GS is a coming attraction to the 2005 Toyota Avalon. I don't think Toyota will drop the Avalon, even though it's close to the Lexus. It's their flagship car! | |
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