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#1237 of 1379 Re: Auto Bild Quality Report [creakid1]
Jun 26, 2007 (6:46 am)
yes, the drivetrain in the recent Focus in the U.S. is Japanese. So was the 1.8 in the '91 Escort GT/Tracer LTS.
Not totally. The 2.0 and 2.3 Duratec is a Mazda design but built by Ford. Only the 4F27E (4 sp auto) tranny is a Mazda. The 1.8 in the Escort GT and Tracer was totally Mazda, also used in the Miata.
It's a shame that we are not going to get the Mk2 Focus over here. That is one helluva vehicle...
#1238 of 1379 Re: Auto Bild Quality Report [aviboy97]
Jun 26, 2007 (7:39 am)
good info here guys.
i didn't realize that the focus was reffered to in 'marks' like vw's are. i just thought they were generations.
#1239 of 1379 Re: Auto Bild Quality Report [eldaino]
Jun 26, 2007 (8:23 am)
didn't realize that the focus was reffered to in 'marks' like vw's are.
In Europe they are!
I especially like the Focus RS... the current Focus has been rated the most reliable vehicle in its segment in Germany, outdoing all Jap and German brands....why the heck do they not give it to us!?!?!
#1240 of 1379 Re: Auto Bild Quality Report [aviboy97]
Jun 26, 2007 (8:45 am)
"the current Focus has been rated the most reliable vehicle in its segment in Germany, outdoing all Jap and German brands...."
That's incredible for an European car (MkII Focus)! This credit must go to Mazda, as European's MkI Focus never had a chance to run on Japanese-designed powerplant (did they?).
By the way, the MkII RS was cancelled. Here's the MkIII regular Focus. Watch out, it's coming to America in the distant future, but even the MkII's overall width is so fat that the 6-ft-wide Lexus LS430 can't match.
#1241 of 1379 Re: Auto Bild Quality Report [creakid1]
Jun 26, 2007 (9:32 am)
If it does, it is the very distant future. For just came out with its new 2008 Focus for NA. The MKIII would definitely save Ford over here.
#1242 of 1379 Re: Auto Bild Quality Report [creakid1]
Jun 27, 2007 (9:28 am)
yeah def in the VERY distant future, if at all. if it does, i doubt it will look exaclty like this either.
the new focus is coming out soon and there have already been pics of it, and its nothing to write home about. and it certainly looks nothing like this.
the interior still looks a bit chintzy though.
#1243 of 1379 Re: Auto Bild Quality Report [eldaino]
Jun 27, 2007 (9:35 am)
God, the 2008 N/A Focus is down right ugly.
#1245 of 1379 Re: Is this VW engine in our near future? [creakid1]
Jun 27, 2007 (11:08 am)
actually no, we are not getting it at all. maybe it will be a choice in the newer mkVI, but the only thing that is happening to the rabbit and jetta is a horsepower bump to 170 and torque is up to 177.
i dont see any problems with the handling of the mkV chassis though, especially not in gti/rabbit guise; it handles well enough. the rabbit is still built in germany too, only the engine is sourced from mexcio. The jetta, however, is built there.
#1246 of 1379 Re: So much for the GTI...huh?! [rorr]
Jul 22, 2007 (5:30 pm)
I've driven the Speed 3, the GTI, even the little Mini Cooper S. None compare the the Civic SI in refinement, handling or all out fun to drive in my opinion. Plus it is cheaper and much more reliable to boot. The best by far.